S5 Lovefest EP213 | Jeremy Clift: Climate Collapse, Seed Vaults, and the Future of Humanity in Space Vault: The Seed Eclipse

Hello My Happy People,

We are heading into the homestretch of Lovefest for Season 5 but we still have some incredible authors to introduce you to before we are done. In this episode, I am sharing my thought-provoking chat with award-winning science fiction author Jeremy Clift. Jeremy is a former international news correspondent with Reuters and the creator of the Sci-Fi Galaxy saga.

We touch on all of his books in this series and give you a detailed glimpse into his latest novel, Space Vault: The Seed Eclipse. In this second book in the series, his characters must fight for humanity’s future as the tide shifts from survival to control. As civilizations deal with climate collapse, food shortages, and corporate power overreach, will one genetically altered child determine what humanity becomes next?

Jeremy shares how his background in journalism and global reporting shaped the ethical and political questions at the heart of his fiction, why genetic sovereignty and seed vaults became central themes in this book, and how moral choice drives the story forward. We also discuss writing complex futures without losing the human core, and what comes next in the Sci-Fi Galaxy universe.

This is a conversation about power, protection, and the question at the heart of great science fiction. It's not just about how humanity survives, but who gets to decide what that survival looks like.

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Dianne Burckhardt 0:01

You're listening to BookBanter with Diane Burkhart, your Book Talk podcast. Join me every Wednesday for real conversations with authors and publishing insiders, where you get to connect with the humans behind the books you love. Let's get on with our show today. Well, hello, my happy people. Today is March 11th, 2026, and we are still deep in our Love Fest episodes. My guest today is an award-winning science fiction author who spent years working as an international journalist and correspondent before turning to fiction. Drawing on that global experience, he explores possible futures for humanity through stories set among space habitats, evolving technology, and the political and ethical challenges that come with living beyond Earth. His work focuses on how humanity might adapt as we move further into space and how the choices we make today could actually shape the world and worlds that come next. Please welcome to BookBanter with Diane Burkhard, science fiction author Jeremy Clift. The way that we like to start the show is just to have our guests tell everyone who you are and what you do.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

Well, good morning. Thank you so much for having me on your show. I'm Jeremy Clift. I'm a sci-fi writer. I've written two sci-fi novels so far, and I'm working on my third. The first one is called Born in Space. It's about artificially conceived children on a space habitat and a mother who tries to stay in touch with them, thwarted by an evil doctor who doesn't want her to be with her children. And the second one is called Space Vault. It's about a biological vault on the moon, which houses the seeds of life in case of a catastrophe on Earth. So those are the two major books I have. The third one is going to come out in May or June. I'm a former journalist. I used to be an international journalist based in many countries around the world, including China, India, Philippines, Indonesia. I worked in the Middle East a bit in Europe early in my career. And then I joined the International Monetary Fund as publisher and as a magazine editor. So I've had about three careers really, first of all as a journalist, secondly as a as a publisher, and this is my third career as an author. Although I've been a writer all this time, it's very different being a novelist from being a non-fiction author.

Dianne Burckhardt 2:48

Yeah, you've kind of mastered several different forms of writing.

SPEAKER_02 2:53

I found that it took a lot of work to transform from non-fiction into a fiction writer. It's a different mindset, and you need to think the rules that you work with as a journalist are completely the opposite of as a novelist. So you have to change your brain.

Dianne Burckhardt 3:12

I have spoken with a lot of different journalists who have transitioned into fiction writing. And one of the things that seems to be a common thread is they feel that being a journalist first helped them to write more tightly and concisely as a fiction author. Do you find that that holds true for you?

SPEAKER_02 3:29

Yeah, I I write tightly. In fact, I have to force myself to elaborate on things. But I've been a tight writer since being a young boy, really, because when I was growing up, my parents didn't like the way I wrote. They wrote in cursive writing, and you know, my writing looked a bit childish. And so they they put me on what they called a copy book where you have to write out letters individually. And the person who was supervising me never really taught me how to join up. So I I was stranded with this very neat writing, but it wasn't fluid. So it took me a long time to write essays. In those days, you wrote essays in long hand, and maybe you still do. So I couldn't write lengthy essays. So I wrote brief essays and forced myself to write concisely, and the result was examiners liked that because it was easier for them to read quicker and contained as much information but more briefly. That obviously was a good skill as a journalist, but it's a different skill set. Being a journalist, you is not just about tight writing, it's about getting the right information in the right place. So that so that you can follow it easily as a reader. And then being a novelist, you're trying to squeeze that information in a palatable way that you know you don't want to info dump, people don't like that. So you need to help readers understand what you're doing, particularly in sci-fi, you you're you're building a world which requires explanation, but you don't want to deluge people with what is that world like. You want them to find out about it slowly and in an interesting way.

Dianne Burckhardt 5:19

You've already mentioned anyone that you've worked as a journalist, an author, a publisher, and you've done this in many different countries. How did that global experience shape the way that you develop your worlds and your characters?

SPEAKER_02 5:32

I I think it's made me very sympathetic to multicultural societies. For example, I grew up in London and I go back to London. I haven't lived there for a long time, but I went to university in London. I I go back regularly, and I'm amazed how multicultural and fantastically interesting London is, and you know, it's really dramatically changed, and all the different cultures there are fantastic. I think it's wonderful to live in societies where you are you know, you're a visitor and you're learning about those countries and absorbing information and absorbing how people do things. It's frightfully interesting.

Dianne Burckhardt 6:12

Yeah, it's one thing to read about another culture, it's another thing to be immersed in that other culture.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Exactly. You know, I mean it's it's the way people speak, the way people think, the way people eat, the way people dress, the the way people treat each other is is fantastically different.

Dianne Burckhardt 6:29

You had such an extensive career dealing with non-fiction in journalism. What made you decide to move to fiction?

SPEAKER_02 6:38

Well, uh the reason why I chose sci-fi is because I wanted to project things forward. I wanted to be able to uh comment on current conditions and things going on in the world, but as an observer into the future. So my books are set in fairly near future, about 40, 50 years in the future. But you know, I'm not brilliant at thinking exactly what it's going to be like. So a lot of it is extrapolation. And we're living almost in the future now with the intersection of robotics, artificial intelligence, CRISPR technology for gene editing, um, all these things are coming together into one transformational package for humanity. And, you know, I I'd had this long career. I retired when I was 63 or something, and I was looking for a new career. Lots of my journalist colleagues, they either write biographies of somebody or nonfiction, or they they become thriller writers, a bit like Freddie Forsyth. And there's a long tradition of journalists becoming novelists. So I was looking at something that hadn't been done so much, and not many journalists become sci-fi writers, and I thought this is a very good vehicle for writing about interesting things that are going on. And uh one of the fantastic changes about Tapan is really possible mining of asteroids. And when I was looking around what to write about, there was a lot of talk about capturing asteroids and mining one of them. They're immensely valuable, and quite a few asteroids come quite close to Earth. With luck they don't hit, but they they could be capturable. And then you would mine something. Several countries have done this. The the Japanese have landed on an asteroid and taken samples out of it, things like that. So I was thinking, what does this mean for the global economy if we start capturing asteroids and mining them? They're worth trillions of dollars each. They will actually change the global economy. I was thinking, oh, it it could be a bit like when the Spanish arrived in Latin America in the 1500s, 1600s, and they started taking the Inca gold and sending it back to Europe, and it transformed Europe, obviously, it created huge inflation in Europe at that time. So if we start mining asteroids, maybe it will have similar effects or maybe it'd be transformational, I'm not sure. Certainly colonizing the moon is going to be a huge step forward, and that's just starting now.

Dianne Burckhardt 9:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

The Artemis astronauts are getting ready to blast off now. So maybe next month in February there'll be astronauts circling the moon again, and then a few months later, the planners for actually to land on the moon again.

Dianne Burckhardt 9:35

Yeah, that'll be interesting to see.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

It'll be fantastic.

Dianne Burckhardt 9:39

Your first book was Born in Space, and that's the first book in your sci-fi galaxy saga. Was this something that you had had in mind for a long time, or did you develop this later whenever you decided that you wanted to go into fiction writing?

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Yeah, as part of my thought process when I wanted to write a sci-fi novel, I thought, well, what would be the premise? And one of them is conceiving in space. Because if you want to colonize space, you have to learn how to travel far and to maybe populate the planets, or at least, you know, even if you went to Mars, you might need resupply of population. So it wouldn't all it wouldn't all be robotic. So conceiving in space is a very complex and difficult thing. Well, maybe conceiving it's not so difficult, but actually going to term for a woman is difficult because of the effects of gravity. And so in this case, it's an experiment by a doctor, and he has a IVF process where eggs are taken from a woman and incubated. And so the story is about seven children who are born on a space habitat. They never actually lived on Earth, so it enables you to comment a lot about what's going on on Earth, the education process, um, what it must be like to look at Earth from the stars. It's sort of almost like a love story for Earth because Earth is so beautiful from above.

Dianne Burckhardt 11:14

You have said before that you are not a heavy outliner. How on earth do you manage such complex storylines without losing sight of the details?

SPEAKER_02 11:24

I'm not a good outliner. I so I I have a concept, maybe I actually have the ending, but the middle bits I don't plan that much. It's a bit like painting, I think, or sculpting, that I like to have an idea and then I like to uh layer things. So it obviously is a bad process, it takes extra long time to do it. And you know, I've done pottery and things like that, and obviously, if you know what you're doing, you can create a pot in five minutes. But if you are laborious like me, you you take a long time and you um think about things a lot. So my process is long, slow, and um I do a lot of research, then I do a bit more research when I can't think what to write. You know, it's not the best process, and it's not certainly not going to make me Stephen King or something, you know, churning out books.

Dianne Burckhardt 12:22

Well, considering how many awards that you've won for your work, I I think it's working for you.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

The awards are useful, I think, because as a self-published author, you you need a vehicle for promoting your book, and the awards is one way to do that. And it's also very useful to be on people's podcasts.

Dianne Burckhardt 12:40

Yeah, that's true. Since you have become a notable sci-fi author, what has surprised you the most about your new career?

SPEAKER_02 12:52

I think the variety of even just in the genre of sci-fi, the enormous variety of writing is extraordinary. Um I started out, I did quite a lot of research about self-publishing, and I went to several conferences about self-publishing, and it's just extraordinary the number of people who are publishing books nowadays. The technology has changed so dramatically that it enables people to self-publish with considerable professionalism. The complexity is not just writing and designing books, but then distributing them, marketing them, publicizing them. All of that is a very complex process, and you learn probably slowly. But it's a fascinating thing. And and the amount being published now, probably far too much stuff is being published, but you know, this has happened with music. There's a lot of bands around, some make it, some don't. Some authors make it, some don't, some painters make it, some don't. So there's a lot of pottery being made and consumed at home, for example. So people have all kinds of different ways of being creative.

Dianne Burckhardt 14:05

What do you think is the hardest part about writing about possible futures for humanity?

SPEAKER_02 14:11

I think getting something accessible, obviously, you can be too obtuse. Finding something that is interesting to you, but maybe not interesting to the reader. So you have to be careful where you you're going and exactly what you're getting into. I've tried to make my books as accessible as possible, but bearing in mind that there's all kinds of different readers. Some like all the rocketry stuff. Some people want emotion and humanity. I've tried to weave that together, not to make it all about uh robots and and rockets. It's about humans and life.

Dianne Burckhardt 14:51

Whenever I was reading your book, Space Vault, The Seed Eclipse, it seemed like it actually kind of mirrored some events that had gone on in American past, recent past, dealing with genetically modified crops. Were you drawing on like some of the corporate history around that for your story?

SPEAKER_02 15:14

You know, there's an obesity epidemic, particularly in America. Some of this is from modifying the way food is produced. And a lot of food nowadays is produced by not using really original vegetables and things, but mashing them up, adding all kinds of stuff to them. It's made things unhealthy for some people. It's got lots of pluses and minuses, like in many things in life. There's now far too much food in the world, I think. You know, that we've gone from famine to surplus. The amount of food thrown away, for example, in America, is extraordinary. And some of this is because of the success of companies in producing large amounts of food fairly cheaply and a lot of variety. People have got used to having strawberries all year round, for example. Yeah. I can get raspberries in the supermarket all year round. The cycles are no longer there. So that is good for consumers in some ways, but it means that the products are produced artificially, a bit like my children in space. So, yes, you're right. There's some parallels. It's deliberately commenting on certain things going on, trying to point out, oh, there's good and bad about this. And I think a lot of it is about ownership of what is being done. You know, you don't want big corporations just changing things without agreement.

Dianne Burckhardt 16:49

And your book actually explores the idea of taking the production of food from the need for survival to genetic control. Was that shift always part of your plan?

SPEAKER_02 17:01

Yes, that was part of the original. When you talk about the seed vault, the seed vault is about preserving original varieties of seeds. And this is happening in the world now that there's there are many seed vaults around the world, actually. Um the most famous one is in Norway, but there's ones in you know, Germany, in England, in the United States, probably in all kinds of places in Africa. People are acting to preserve their heirloom varieties of seeds and um the seeds that the varieties of fruit that taste better than now, you know, that you many people say, well, oh, I can get tomatoes easily enough, but they don't taste the same as they used to. So all these things lose taste if they're not the original.

Dianne Burckhardt 17:52

That's one thing that I've been noticing. Even like I'm part of the Cherokee Nation, and they even have their own heirloom seed program so that natives can get heirloom seeds from the nation that they traditionally grew.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

Yes, and to replenish them if there's a problem like a drought or something.

Dianne Burckhardt 18:10

In the seed vault, it actually turns life itself into currency. How do you balance the science behind that idea with the ethical concerns?

SPEAKER_02 18:20

It's not so much currency as it becomes the thing that people fight over. And in this case, there's two alien groups who also want the seeds as well as humanity. So the seed vault is preserving old varieties of seeds and heirloom varieties of seeds for humanity through foresight of the lady who founded the seed vault, who's a in the story a well-known biologist. But there's other groups in the universe who want the seeds because of stuff happening on their own planets. So the vault becomes a an area of contention. So, you know, it's in a way a metaphor for what is happening, but hopefully it sort of shows these varieties of seeds are valuable. Other people might want them too.

Dianne Burckhardt 19:11

What do you hope readers take away from this story?

SPEAKER_02 19:15

To look at life more profoundly, I hope. These stories are about humanity and life at a time of immense change. So what is being human is under challenge in a way. Where we head with that is our choice, or it should be our choice. So when you have the fusion of a robot with maybe human brain, so you've you've already got neural links that can transform people's lives by helping them, for example, operate an artificial limb through a neural link. And there's all kinds of other ways that technology is helping people now. Robots are being developed very fast with artificial intelligence and possible neural links into them. So exactly the borderline between what is human and what is modified is blurring very quickly through all kinds of different technologies, but mostly through changes in genome, genetic engineering, artificial intelligence, robotics, self-driving cars, things like this. So it's a huge mishmash and it's going to transform our lives uh extraordinarily quickly.

Dianne Burckhardt 20:33

Yeah, I'm one of those people where I feel like I can't really jump too hard onto that conversation because I like to joke about me being a mutant because I am quite literally part cow and part machine. Because I had cow tissue implant after a brain surgery, and I have a VP shunt in my head. So I'm a great example of how science has used modification to give me a life.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

Yeah, it's helping you.

Dianne Burckhardt 21:03

I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that.

SPEAKER_02 21:05

Yes. So I I think that there's a lot of stuff that is happening that is very helpful to people and it's going to transform lives. It's already transforming, you know, AI is transforming doctors' visits, it can diagnose you much more quickly, maybe reduce lines of hospitals, for example. So the intersection of all this is going to change people very quickly. CRISPR has helped all kinds of babies, people with heart problems, things like that. So it's transformational and extraordinary.

Dianne Burckhardt 21:42

I think it's always going to come down to having oversight to make sure that it's all used ethically.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

Yes, because people always take it a bit further. Oh, I could do this, I could do that. So we all have to be thinking about where are we headed with this technology? People need to be aware of it. They shouldn't think of this as science fiction any longer. Because people s sort of dismiss some of these things as science fiction, but it's not anymore. Yeah. Having huge numbers of satellites floating around the earth, all giving you GPS and communications, weather forecasting, all kinds of stuff. It's not science fiction. It's this is where we are now.

Dianne Burckhardt 22:22

And it also still makes for good books, though.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

Well, hopefully it makes people think a lot. It gives something for people to read that says, oh, I ha hadn't realized that. I hadn't thought of that. That's a really interesting aspect. So I think the idea of the first book born in space where you have these floating habitats going around Earth. This is something quite likely to happen fairly quickly. A bit like cruise ships going around Earth on the sea. There will be habitats going around the earth. That's where the tourism will be, I think. I don't think that there's going to be lots of tourism trips to the moon, actually, because it's it's a complex thing to do that. But going to a space habitat floating around the earth, probably not that difficult. And it will be a fantastic trip and something, you know, five days looking at Earth from the stars is amazing.

Dianne Burckhardt 23:20

Now if we can just get that done in our lifetime, that would be good.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

I think it will happen.

Dianne Burckhardt 23:27

So now seems like the perfect time to do our five quick questions that never turn out to be quick, but I have eternal hope it will happen one day. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Okay.

Dianne Burckhardt 23:38

Question one. You've lived in cities all over the world. Which place feels most like home to you?

SPEAKER_02 23:46

I have several answers to that. Firstly, I went to university in London and I love going back to London. So London is is a home. I'm married to a very beautiful Indian lady, and I I lived in India twice, and I love living in India. My son was born in Delhi, so going to India is a wonderful thing to do. I am very sympathetic to Indonesian culture, Javanese culture. My daughter was born in Jakarta, and so I love that. I had the wonderful opportunity of living in China for a short time, maybe uh 18 months. Just at the time of extraordinary change under Deng Xiaoping. It's not home, but I would love to go back there and see what's happened. And now I'm living in the United States. I love where I live is in Charlottesville, in the Shenandoah Valley. It's the most beautiful part of the United States. Wonderful seasons here, nothing true dramatic, so it's an ideal spot to live.

Dianne Burckhardt 24:52

Question two. What's one thing you value more now than when you were younger?

SPEAKER_02 24:59

I am more aware of time, maybe. Also, I've become more solitary. So I I don't mind solitude. Uh I like quiet. But it's not idle quiet. I'm always thinking I love walking, and some of my best ideas are from walking every afternoon.

Dianne Burckhardt 25:18

Question three. In sci-fi, there are a lot of really big fandoms. Are there any specific ones for which you are a true fanatic?

SPEAKER_02 25:27

I'm not really a sci-fi fanatic, but I do like space opera quite a bit. And I like all the books by Alfred C. Clarke and that type of sci-fi as well.

Dianne Burckhardt 25:40

Question four. You mentioned in your bio that you are father of two grown children. What is one great thing about having children that are all grown up?

SPEAKER_02 25:50

What amazes me is what they've done with their lives and their careers and how they've developed and um how responsible they are now. I mean, after I've grew up with them, all the all the things that they have learned and then you see the little reflections and say, oh, some things were passed down and they're good.

Dianne Burckhardt 26:12

It's so nice whenever they're adults because you can have a different level of conversation with them. You can actually build that friendship instead of being a parent.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

Yeah, well, I'm very proud of my children. My daughter is a cancer researcher. Oh, wow. And my son does IT work. So they both made fantastic careers. And that's one reason why I came to the United States actually to help them have good careers.

Dianne Burckhardt 26:37

That's amazing. That's good parenting.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Maybe.

Dianne Burckhardt 26:42

So now question five. We're asking everyone the same question this year to build a database to go in our year-end book buying guide. Which book do you think had the best book-to-movie adaptation?

SPEAKER_02 26:54

Well, I was influenced a lot by The Martian by Andy Weir. I thought it's an extraordinarily good movie, and his book is very good. His whole career is inspiring for self-published authors because he started off self-publishing. So I think The Martian is very good, and I would vote for that.

Dianne Burckhardt 27:15

So now what is next for you? Is the book that you're currently working on part of your sci-fi galaxy saga, or are you going to explore a whole new world?

SPEAKER_02 27:23

Well, at the moment I'm sticking to Sci-Fi Galaxy because the original concept is Born in Space is about seven children. So theoretically there could be seven books, but you know, maybe there will be five books or something like that, because some of the books have several of the kids in. Certainly, the idea is to have a series of books. One of the things I learned in my research before I started writing was self-published authors need to write series of books because the marketing required helps promote earlier books. So it's cumulative.

Dianne Burckhardt 27:58

Yeah, it really does make a difference.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

So the idea is to have a series, the Sci-Fi Galaxy series. Maybe when I get to five, I'll get bored and do something else. But I'm not sure if I want to jump around genres. I had written a book earlier about a sort of heist book, but uh I never published that. So we'll we'll have to see if I could do something along those lines.

Dianne Burckhardt 28:23

Do you want to give everybody a little preview of what this book is that you're working on?

SPEAKER_02 28:27

The third book is called Space Shield. It'll be published maybe May or June, and it's about sun flares and the power of the sun on Earth. So and the the Shield is construct that could be built. There are lots of papers about a sun shield to regulate climate on Earth. Certainly the flares from the sun are very damaging. The more we are reliant on satellite communications, the more that could be interrupted by the sun. Your self-driving car could suddenly drive off the road because it no longer has GPS. So the role of the sun is going to be dramatic. The sun flares and whether or not we can regulate climate change. So it it's all around that idea of the power of the sun.

Dianne Burckhardt 29:19

Sounds like you have another award-winning idea on your hands.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

There was an event in the Victorian times called the Carrington event, which was it was the worst sunflare ever recorded. And people are worried that this type of power of the sun will return this time when we are reliant on satellite communications, GPS, and so many ways that the sun can interfere with our lives. So we've never experienced this. It set telegraph offices on fire, things like that, but this time around it would be much, much worse.

Dianne Burckhardt 30:02

I can only imagine what it would do to that technology orbiting the Earth.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

Yeah, I think it will fry everything.

Dianne Burckhardt 30:09

Yeah. That's a scary thought.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

Well, one could read the book and see, okay, what should we do about it? The issue is, okay, if you plan for this and you have a solar shield, who has the power of the solar shield? So who controls that? So it's a bit like the seed vault and who controls life. In this case, it's the solar shield and who controls the ability to switch the sun on and off.

Dianne Burckhardt 30:36

And those are some very good questions to explore now before it's actually happening.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Yeah, it it definitely is.

Dianne Burckhardt 30:45

So now why don't you go ahead and remind everybody who you are and where they can find you and your books?

SPEAKER_02 30:51

My name is Jeremy Clift. I have a website called JeremyCliftBooks.com. My books are available on several platforms, obviously on Amazon around the world, bookstore.org. My books are all published through Ingram Spark as well as Amazon and Draft to Digital as well. So Draft to Digital gets you into Kobo, SmashWords, things like that. So a lot of different platforms. If you look up Jeremycliffebooks.com, you'll get a lot of material there. And you can see some of the reviews, whatever is helpful to you.

Dianne Burckhardt 31:28

And for all of our listeners, we will make it very easy for them to find you on the internet because in the description of today's podcast, we will have all of the links to your major social media and also to go buy your books. And you'll also be listed on Burkhartbooks.com slash podcast.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

Great, that's fantastic. I have a good audio version of the first book, Born in Space, which I'm delighted to say actually lots of people are listening to. So if you like audiobooks, Born in Space is beautifully narrated by Gabrielle Gums Gordon. And I will be doing the other two soon.

Dianne Burckhardt 32:04

And audiobooks have become incredibly popular lately, and people don't realize how much work and money goes in for independent authors to produce audiobooks. So one thing that we always want to push is if there is an audiobook by an independent author, please go check that out because a lot of love and care went into getting that to people.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

Yes. And I've deliberately chosen a human narrator. Even the sites themselves are pushing AI narrators.

Dianne Burckhardt 32:34

Yeah, they are.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

I'm rigorously going to stick with human narrators. I very much support human creativity and human narrators.

Dianne Burckhardt 32:45

Absolutely. Thank you so much for being here with me today. You have just been absolutely delightful, and I loved having you as a guest.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

Fantastic. Thank you so much for speaking with me.

Dianne Burckhardt 32:57

So there you have it, folks. My conversation with the award-winning science fiction author, Jeremy Clift. If you would like to learn more about Jeremy and his work, be sure to check out the links in the description of today's episode, where you can find his website and information on his sci-fi galaxy series. Now, coming up next week, we will have our first ever book banter with Diane Burkhart, Podcast Takeover. My friend Sebastian Doreau Russell, award-winning author of Burning with a Blue Flame, will be stepping up as guest host to interview romance author D. S. Stevens about her upcoming book, Langston Watch Hotel. This is the first book in a new Haunted Heart series being published through Burkhart Books. If you would like to see the final cover reveal for the Langston Watch Hotel before it is released to the public, be sure to sign up for our newsletter at Burkhartbooks.com slash subscribe. The cover art for this book has been revealed throughout Love Fest exclusively in our newsletter. And the final reveal will happen next week, just in time for our special episode. We're also working on a new media course designed to help authors learn how to better promote themselves and their work. After interviewing so many authors over the years on Book Banter with Diane Burkhardt, it has become clear that many authors, even traditionally published authors, struggle with marketing. With my background in graphic design, promotions, and advertising, I want to make this process a little bit easier. So be sure to sign up for that newsletter so that you can stay up to date on all of these great things that are coming out of Burkhart Books and BookBanter Productions. And as a little bonus, newsletter subscribers also receive exclusive deals and discounts that you won't find anywhere else. I think that's probably enough for today, folks. So you know what that means. It's time for you all to go forth. Go forth and be really happy that we have a cool podcast takeover episode coming next week. Thank you for joining us today. Be sure to subscribe to BookBanter with Diane Burkhart on your favorite podcast streaming service. Because if you love books like we do, you do not want to miss a single episode of this podcast.